i never heard him -- you know, say anything like this before. i just had never -- you know, fairly early on in that speech, i just realized that, wow, this is not normal talk. this is not something he's going to go on fox news and say, even. just not going to happen. you know. and that was the stunning part for me. i realized that, you know, this is different. and everybody else needs to hear it too. >> were any other of the people working the event when some of these things were being said kind of looking at each other going, what did he -- did he just -- >> that was -- i was looking around for, you know, when he was talking about that -- the pittance that they earned and stacking these girls three high, and the barbed wire and surrounded by barbed wire and guard towers, and golly, i can't keep these girls in here like this, i was looking for reaction. i thought some of the guests would maybe gasp or kind of be taken aback and i didn't see any reaction at all. but there was a staff member who -- you could just see, they were listening and one actually backed up into the room to kind of hear the rest of what was being said. you know, i could see that he had heard it too. and, you know, he actually just backed up and he was leaving the room, but then stopped, and wanted to hear.